Episode 22 · Jul 18, 2013 · 25:01

"It's A Disaster" With Director Todd Berger

Dan's guest today: an actual, real-life movie director, Todd Berger! Todd discusses his latest film, "It's A Disaster", starring Rachel Boston, David Cross, America Ferrera, Julia Stiles, Erinn Hayes, Blaise Miller, Jeff Grace, and Kevin M. Brennan!

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Teaching Actors How to Act
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Dan Rodandan
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July 18, 2013
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Full transcript of Teaching Actors How to Act episode 22, hosted by acting coach Dan Rodandan.

Dan Rodandan:

Dan Rodandan, Dan, hello all of you. Welcome to my acting podcast. Merry Christmas. Just kidding. It is the opposite of Christmas right now. It is the middle of the summer. It is very hot outside, very humid. A lot of people going to the beach. A lot of people showing off what they got, trying to get the milkshake to bring the boys to the beach. But as we all know on a hot day a milkshake is uh uh it's not that great. I mean you think it's good for a moment you know you're trying it oh it's so refreshing all of a sudden you got milk a lot of milk in your throat and you're coughing and you're spinning and uh if you if you can't find a drinking fountain or anywhere to get some nice cold water or coconut water or hose water nothing nothing's better than a good good sip of hose water I always say. You know you you find the hose in somebody's front yard and you just, yeah, you taste that rust. Reminds you of the, reminds you of the blood coming out of your gums in the morning when you brush your teeth. And that's, you know, that's, that's, that's what summer's about. It's about tooth decay, more or less.

And, but you got to stay hydrated. One of the key things for an actor is to stay hydrated. You gotta stay full of water otherwise your spit is gonna look it's gonna be thick, it's gonna be a solid and it's gonna affect your vocal cords and you're not gonna be able to project and reach the middle of the theater. On a very hot day you'll sound like this.

(As Romeo, dry-mouthed)

Dan Rodandan:

Romeo. Oh God. Romeo. Little Romeo. Little Romeo. Wherefore.

Dan Rodandan:

And that's why you don't drink a milkshake before a show. That's just a little piece of advice.

And speaking of advice, I have a guest. I have a guest, a calling guest, a guest over the phone. He refused to come to my neck of the woods. He said traffic. He said a lot of things, and all of them valid, yes. Danger. He said that he heard that there was a lot of rioting going on because of certain... Anyway, he called in over the phone. He's a director, director of films, a director of Chasing Christmas, a director of It's a Disaster, a director of The Scenesters. His name is Todd Berger. Todd, short for Todd, Berger, short for...

(Stomach rumble)

Dan Rodandan:

Oh, excuse me. I'm so sorry about that. There was a little bit of wind coming out of my stomach. It was... I've been very stressed out lately. I've been very stressed. Not a lot of people in my neighborhood are very friendly to me. Since the incident with the ducks. And by the incident with the ducks, I mean the times that I accidentally fed a bunch of ducks glass and they all passed away in the street. And the garbage men refused to clean all that up. So they're still there.

Anyway, Todd Berger called in and we have an interview with this fantastic director. I would recommend watching It's a Disaster because it's a real treat. And if you don't like it, you're a disaster, and fuck you. So let's start that interview now.

Hello there. Is this Todd?

Todd Berger:

Hello there.

Dan Rodandan:

Todd Berger, the director?

Todd Berger:

Todd Berger. Todd Berger, that's me.

Dan Rodandan:

So you're a director, you're a writer, you're an actor. How would you classify yourself?

Todd Berger:

I'm a renaissance man, really. I'm a man of many talents, a master of none. But I would primarily say I am a writer-director. I'm an actor being a distant third.

Dan Rodandan:

A distant third. Now, did I see you popping up on Parks and Recreation the other day when I was watching that? Is that...

Todd Berger:

You did. You did. I played a photographer in an episode from season two. I also am currently in a Dairy Queen commercial that has become fairly ubiquitous, but I feel like they're showing every five minutes. So keep an eye out for that.

Dan Rodandan:

So when you do a Dairy Queen commercial, do they let you eat the food? Do you get to keep some? Do you take it home? Because I know there's a lot of jobs where I end up taking a lot of food from the sets because I don't have a lot of my own. And is there a Dairy Queen? Do you get pretty much whatever you like when you go in there? Are you like an owner?

Todd Berger:

Well, so I had to drive about an hour and a half east of Los Angeles. I'm here in Los Angeles, and I had to drive about an hour and a half east because that's where the closest Dairy Queen actually was. And then the commercial was for chicken strips, like a chicken strip basket. And so the first couple times we did it, I would take a bite of the chicken strip and I would actually eat it. And then the assistant director came over after the first couple takes and said, you're going to want to start spitting that out into a spit bucket. And I was like, no, no, it's fine. I don't mind anything. No, I don't think you understand how many times you're going to have to eat these things. And I probably bit into and then chewed 100 chicken strips. I'm not exaggerating, 100 over the course of three or four hours. And I didn't want a chicken strip for a couple months.

Dan Rodandan:

That sounds like a dream. Just to have all that food sitting there on Friday and just chewing away. Chomping out of the Dairy Queen chicken strips. And did they give you any ice cream or just the chicken the whole time?

Todd Berger:

Just all chicken. No, the Blizzard machine wasn't even working.

Dan Rodandan:

They didn't even turn it on for you.

Todd Berger:

No, I was going to say, hey, can I get a Blizzard for the ride home? And they had shut down the actual restaurant for the day to shoot the commercial, and the Blizzard machine wasn't even on, and I was so sad.

Dan Rodandan:

So you made It's a Disaster. That is a film about the end of the world. Is that the one that just came out with Seth Rogen? What's his name? The pineapple guy?

Todd Berger:

No, that was James Franco, I believe is his name. That movie was called This Is the End, and that's actually a remake of my film. My film came out in April.

Dan Rodandan:

Yes, yes, yes.

Todd Berger:

The remakes are coming a lot faster these days. So my film came out in April, and they already had a remake out by June. Kind of impressive.

Dan Rodandan:

That is incredible.

Todd Berger:

And I believe there's already a remake. I think in August, there's a remake called The World's End. They remade This Is the End, which was a remake of It's a Disaster. But It's a Disaster in actuality was a remake of Seeking a Friend for the End of the World, which in itself was, I believe, a remake of something, some French movie.

Dan Rodandan:

Amazing. That is amazing.

Todd Berger:

Yeah. Like eventually it's all just going to be one movie out there. We're all going to be in it. It's going to be a great time.

Dan Rodandan:

When you made It's a Disaster, how long did it take to shoot? It was all in one house, more or less. And did you all just live in that house and shoot it on your iPhones? Or did you do it? Because I'm trying to make a movie myself, and I'm wondering what I need to do.

Todd Berger:

Well, I mean, iPhones were an option, but we actually shot on the Arri Alexa, which is a very nice high-definition camera. We shot all in one house. We did not stay in the house, but we did, in lieu of trailers, we decided to rent the house across the street and have that be like the cast hangout house because we didn't have any money for the movie. And we quickly learned that the house across the street that we had rented here in Los Angeles was the house that Marvin Gaye had been murdered in in 1984. Yeah, so it was, I'm pretty sure, haunted by his ghost.

Dan Rodandan:

Did you guys bring a Ouija board in there?

Todd Berger:

No, we never did, but Erinn Hayes, one of the actresses in the film who plays Emma, she is convinced she was impregnated with Marvin Gaye's ghost baby.

Dan Rodandan:

My God.

Todd Berger:

I'm not sure if she came to term or what happened with that, but she was fairly convinced that she was carrying a ghost baby. I haven't talked to her about it in a while, though.

Dan Rodandan:

That sounds like something that you may want to get in touch with her about, because that would be a fascinating documentary about raising the ghost child.

Todd Berger:

It would. Marvin Gaye.

Dan Rodandan:

Yeah. Having to get some sort of seance just to try to contact the father for alimony payments.

Todd Berger:

Oh, I didn't even think about that. That's a whole...

Dan Rodandan:

Yeah, yeah. It's got to be fairly inconvenient. Ghost money for the ghost baby. Got to find a good ghost preschool. You got to... And then the baby... Well, the baby's half ghost, so the baby can get ghost scholarships probably eventually at some point.

Todd Berger:

That's right. It's bispectral at that point, I think.

Dan Rodandan:

Yes, yes. So you premiered the film at the L.A. Film Festival, and you won the New Orleans Film Festival Best Audience Award. Was that a good feeling?

Todd Berger:

Well, it wasn't the Best Audience Award, because I'm sure the audience was great in all of the films, but we won Best Film given by the audience. I believe the Best Audience Award went to the audience for The Sapphires.

Dan Rodandan:

Ah, The Sapphires.

Todd Berger:

That audience was pretty great. I mean, our audience was okay, but that really was the best audience. So, I will give you that.

Dan Rodandan:

How do you cultivate a good audience like that? Are there steps that you can take to make sure that you get those kind of audiences?

Todd Berger:

Oh, yeah. It's like Studio 54 in the 70s where you kind of have to stand outside with a velvet rope and you have to look people over. I don't want to say you're profiling. I'm not going to use that word. But there is a lot of like you, you, and you, you're in. If anyone looks like they're not going to be a good audience member, like they probably won't laugh. Or they might be like heavy breathers. You'll turn them away. You have to be very critical when it comes to picking your audience.

Dan Rodandan:

So if I was in line there, I would have to be very careful, you know, because I have a pretty heavily broken nose. And on occasion, it does tend to make me a heavy breather, especially when I'm excited. I have to say that I was very excited watching this film. I liked it when the people outside passed away because they were late. Spoiler alert, that was a moment that I feel like I certainly would have passed away in that instance.

What made you so interested in the end, the end of, of man I suppose, in that area of the world, the Los Angeles area? What are the things...

Todd Berger:

I live in Los Angeles. And there's a constant fear of earthquakes here. You know people are always talking about... A constant thing that you always say is, for instance, I was at a bar on Saturday night, and at this bar, it was like a mixology bar, and there was this giant, like, weird chandelier hanging right over our heads, and someone said, wow, I wouldn't want to be here in an earthquake. And that's a constant thing that people say all the time here in L.A. is, wow, I wouldn't want to be here in an earthquake. If you're in a crowded elevator, someone would be like, wow, I hope there's not an earthquake. And so when there is going to be an earthquake, we all assume we're going to be home. Like you assume you're going to be in bed or on your couch at home, there's a very good chance you'll be in your car, you'll be at the bank, you'll be at a dinner party. You don't know where you're going to be, and you don't know who you're going to be stuck with. So I love the idea of being somewhere unexpected during a horrible disaster, and that's when I came up with this idea of like a very uncomfortable couples brunch that you don't even want to go to in the first place. And then when you get there, it's the end of the world, and you're now stuck with these people maybe for the rest of your life.

Dan Rodandan:

That is, yes. It's become very much a fear of mine now. Anytime I'm in an uncomfortable situation, I'm like, well, there's a chance this could be forever. This is what I'm going to be doing for the rest of my life. We're going to be hanging out with these people.

But so David Cross, he plays a character with a bit of a twist. He plays something a bit off-type from his own regular personality, I suppose you could say. What was it like directing all of those big-name actors there with America Ferrera and Rachel Boston?

Todd Berger:

It was interesting because everyone has brought their own kind of different take. Everyone has their own approach to acting. And, you know, I just tried to acclimate to what they were used to. And, you know, Julia, for instance, would kind of, you know, want to bring me aside before we were to shoot and be like, let's talk about the scene. America Ferrera really likes to get into her character, and she plays a chemistry teacher in the movie. And America accidentally enrolled in a four-year college to get a degree in educational studies and then spent two years teaching chemistry at inner city schools just to know what it was like. All in research for this movie.

Dan Rodandan:

That's dedication.

Todd Berger:

Yeah, and she then actually went to a dentist's office and asked them to douse her with low levels of radiation just so she could feel what it would be like. And I thought that was a lot of dedication. Whereas David just kind of showed up and did what I told him.

Dan Rodandan:

Right. And just like in all movies, you really cannot tell the difference regarding how much work people put into things. Some people, they just have it, and other people, they don't. And I would say that it was very clear that America had it. She had it on screen. In the end, it's what's about on screen. She could walk and shoot. They did all those drugs. Did she take any drugs beforehand for those scenes, to learn how to play those kind of?

Todd Berger:

Yeah, she went to Burning Man for two weeks. She changed her name to Star Moon, which doesn't even make sense to me. I don't understand what a star moon is. But she went to Burning Man for two or three weeks. She set up a little commune out there and was on, I think, Special K, Ecstasy, all of them. I would get a lot of strange text messages from her at all hours of the night.

Dan Rodandan:

Oh, that sounds like fun. Is that just one of the many perks of being a director is you get to cultivate those kind of relationships with the people out there? Have you ever directed anything that was more serious than It's a Disaster or The Scenesters?

Todd Berger:

Well, I did do a documentary a few years ago. I'm from New Orleans, and I did a documentary about the first Mardi Gras after Katrina, the hurricane, if you remember that.

Dan Rodandan:

I do. An old disaster from 2005.

Todd Berger:

And parts of it are serious, you know, because it's about the destruction of a major American city, but it's also, it has a lot of funny parts in it because it's about the spirit of New Orleans and the can-do spirit that the city had in order to put Mardi Gras on. But there are some touching parts in it. And that was probably a big inspiration for me as well, for It's a Disaster, growing up in a city where hurricanes were constantly rolling up and threatening to destroy us all.

Dan Rodandan:

Sure. You've just moved from one dangerous place to another?

Todd Berger:

I do, you know? You're like a war correspondent in a way. Yeah, I'm like Brad Pitt in World War Z. I just like to go from one hot zone to the next.

Dan Rodandan:

That is a fantastic way to live. You're living on the edge. Living on a wing and a prayer. I respect that. And I noticed that some of, well, some of all the movies of yours that I've seen have sort of a specific comedic tone that I think is kind of remarkable. And I was wondering what influences you to get sort of those deadpan moments.

Todd Berger:

I guess I really just, you know, I grew up loving like screwball comedies like the Marx Brothers and things like that, where the humor came not only from, you know, jokes, but from like awkward looks into the camera and awkward moments and awkward silences. And then I really like Christopher Guest movies, Waiting for Guffman, and the awkwardness of satire more than I ever liked Adam Sandler movies or movies where people fell down the stairs. So I just try to take that kind of screwball, but low-key screwball approach, if that makes any sense, and bring that to the film. Because that's how I live my life every day. Like, I give a lot of people, I roll my eyes a lot and then look to a camera that's not really there. And people are always like, what are you looking at? And I'm like, what? And they're like, I just said something, and then you looked over and rolled your eyes. Who are you rolling your eyes at? And I'm like, I wasn't looking at anyone.

Dan Rodandan:

That's great. And I think that is some excellent advice for young directors and actors, if you can. Just roll your eyes and look away from people. I know that it certainly creates a power dynamic there that's very interesting. And what other advice would you have for young people who are trying to be the next Todd Berger?

Todd Berger:

Well, you could probably look into changing your name. I think you can do it at the Department of Motor Vehicles. But if you just want to be someone like Todd Berger, which is me, you know I would say I once interviewed Matthew McConaughey in Austin, Texas when I used to work for the student television station and he was at a movie premiere and I was on the other side I was working for the student television station and I asked him, Matthew what advice would you give to young filmmakers and he said two things first he said one day at a time, big picture in mind and then he said you gotta pick a direction, north, south, east or west and then you gotta give yourself five, six lanes to swerve. So I think that sums up my philosophy on becoming an artist right there.

Dan Rodandan:

Well it seems to be working for you I must say.

Todd Berger:

Oh yeah.

Dan Rodandan:

What kind of actors are you looking for out there when you try to cast your films? How directly involved are you with the casting and have you written anything with me in mind?

Todd Berger:

Well, you know, I'm always looking for people who are just committed, people who want to make something good versus people who just want to be famous, people who want to delve into the role. I'm always looking for hot, young, sexy, good-looking people. Because we would rather see that on screen. And as for writing a part for you, I mean, I haven't specifically written a part for you, but there is a script that I have that you could probably be a good fit for. It's about kind of this young adventurer, like kind of Indiana Jones type that my friend Blaise would play. But then there's his brother. It's kind of this like screw up loser who, you know, doesn't know what to do with his life. May or may not have some sort of Asperger's. We don't know.

Dan Rodandan:

Sure.

Todd Berger:

So I could send you that.

Dan Rodandan:

Yeah, that'd be terrific. So I would play the screw-up loser, piece of garbage, brother. And is there nudity? Is there a sex scene? Hopefully something humiliating that I could sort of really sink my teeth into.

Todd Berger:

You actually, we suspect there might be something wrong with him because he actually rarely ever wears pants. Even when it's set in Detroit in January.

Dan Rodandan:

Okay.

Todd Berger:

And he's never, never wearing pants.

Dan Rodandan:

Never wearing pants. And does this character find things arousing? Does this character, is this part of the Asperger's? Does he bump into people? I mean, what kind of gags are we talking about with all this nudity?

Todd Berger:

Well, you know, that's a character choice, really, that I'm going to let the actor explore. I'm going to expect the actor to do a lot, a lot of research. Really diving in. The way that, you know, what's his face? Daniel Day-Lewis kind of would really spend months and months getting into the role. I'm going to expect that it plays this part to Daniel Day-Lewis, this role.

Dan Rodandan:

Okay. So just FYI, get a ticket to Detroit right now. I'm going to go to my local library. I'm going to go online. I'm going to book a ticket to Detroit. I'm going to take my pants off. And I'm going to try to find somebody to be my brother, I guess. And I'll walk around and just see where it takes me. Thank you so much for the opportunity. I'm very excited. And at some point, I would like to get your home phone number so that I could update you with my progress and maybe a mailing address or even like the address to your parents' house or something like that.

Todd Berger:

Oh, sure. I'll give you that off air.

Dan Rodandan:

Thank you. Thank you. It's been so wonderful talking to you, Todd. Is there anything else you'd like to say about It's a Disaster? Where can people see this?

Todd Berger:

No, people can see it wherever movies are available. You can get it on Netflix, on iTunes, On Demand, on Amazon, your local library. That's not even a joke. You can actually go to your library and find it. Really, wherever movies are available. In hotels. I think it's in hotel rooms right now.

Dan Rodandan:

Fantastic. But I just want to thank you for having me. I'm a long-time listener, first-time caller, big fan of the show. Definitely appreciate the call. Keep doing what you're doing. Love your work. And I would absolutely recommend It's a Disaster. I laughed so hard that I pulled a muscle in my stomach, and it was very uncomfortable for about three weeks, but I would say worth it. It was a disaster in its own way. But, again, thank you so much. I'm a huge fan, and you're a very handsome young man. And I hope to see you again sometime on Parks and Rec.

Todd Berger:

Yes we'll do it again. All again one day. Thank you.

Dan Rodandan:

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen that was Todd Berger. Wasn't he great? Doesn't he sound like a talented guy? Doesn't he sound like a straight shooter and a sharp razor or whatever the expression is? He's a clever gentleman. He's a funny redhead. He's a man who knows how to make a film. That makes two of us. Hopefully coming up at some point. Make the stutter work for you. That's what they say. Use it.